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Re: Flock Flyers



Hi Kevin,

you wrote:
"My goal is to eventually fly at least one pair and
> perhaps several of my Patagonian conures.  I'm
> imagining the flights being controlled and of fairly
> short duration, rather than allowing them to roam at
> liberty."

Me:
Good Luck training them, hope you are more succesfull than myself.
I find it very hard, to compete with all the reinforcing things they
find in the environment. E.g. the Buds on thr trees are coming out
here now e.g. the flowere heads of the willow trees. They spent hours
on chewing on them to as I can only imagine to get the nectar pollen.
I tried letting them out before they have eaten, called them back to
their aviary, but as said those little "chewing machines" find now
enough food in the garden and neibhourhood., to be tempted enough to
come if called. My mistake I know !!! As I don't do food management
with them. But I do it for a reason!

In regards to what you wrote above, that you imagine the flights
being controlled......
I'm not so sure about that. Unless you live somewhere were aren't any
other birds, no helicopters, noises etc...,
that might distract or disturbebs them, than you might get controlled
flights. My birds normally if starteld by something, fly up in a line
direct into the sky, calling aech other and flying in flock formation
normally in circles.

However, if crows or seagulls fly along the birds than (Conures)
either they fly away from those birds, or they fly with them and
sometimes they chase the crows or the seagulls.

You wrote:
"I admit I have had a few flying
> at liberty over the years by mistake too -always got
> them back, but its good for a gray hair or two!"

LOL, :-)
Believe me if I saw my birds for the first few times all of the
sudden disapear in a straight line into the big sky......and the
distance got bigger and bigger and than they were gone....
My hair should be white by now. It can last from several minutes to
up to an hour before they come back.
This still happends today in particular if they have been in their
aviary because of the severe weather, for several days Weeks etc.
The first day after a long period inside, makes them fly for ages.
If I see how close they manouvere around branches, my house, I have
to close my eyes.... They fly like bullets! If you have seen Bats fly
in the eveing and saw how incredible fast they turn etc, you get a
good idea what I mean.

You wrote:
"Personally, I would never allow any bird to breed at
> liberty.  Fortunately in my area there is a complete
> lack of sandstone cliffs, so I don't think my
> Patagonians could even if I let them."

Me:
I agree here, my birds breed in their aviary!
As Cornwall (the part where I live) has harldy any trees big enough
to have natural nest cavities, I have no problem that they might find
something better, than the nestboxes supplied inside the aviary.

Regards

Marcus

--- In Freeflight@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin S." <kevmsharp@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- Marcus <marcus@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi Emily,
> >
> > It would help if it would be the same species,
> > but I'm more than happy to learn from others who fly
> >
> > multiple birds together.
> >
> > I'm interrested whether they could observe any
> > behaviour change
> > within the flock I.e. breeding time, did some birds
> > fight or seperatet
> > etc.
> >
> > Does any one who flies their birds in a flock allows
> > them to breed ?
> > If so in an aviary each pair on their own and the
> > birds are only
> > together for flying etc....
>
> Hi Marcus,
> My goal is to eventually fly at least one pair and
> perhaps several of my Patagonian conures.  I'm
> imagining the flights being controlled and of fairly
> short duration, rather than allowing them to roam at
> liberty.  I'll be interested in seeing how it goes,
> but it will likely take me a few years to get that
> many up and flying.  I admit I have had a few flying
> at liberty over the years by mistake too -always got
> them back, but its good for a gray hair or two!
>
> Personally, I would never allow any bird to breed at
> liberty.  Fortunately in my area there is a complete
> lack of sandstone cliffs, so I don't think my
> Patagonians could even if I let them.
>
> I read reference once to a bird garden in England that
> had/has a flock of freeflying Patagonians.  I don't
> know anything more than that.  Perhaps Dot knows...
>
> -Kevin S.
>
>