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Re: Sad last day of the year
Hi Jan,
it seems like you're suggesting that anyone who has birds should
personally care for them 24/7.
This is highly unrealistic. Have you ever visited family across
country? Taken a vacation (whether a weekend or multi-week)? Ever
had to care for (and therefore live with) a sick relative for a
period of time?
In any and all of these cases, someone needs to care for the birds
and other animals. That someone prolly ain't you. And it's not
irresponsible, as you seem to imply, to bring someone in to care for
the animals while you're gone.
Jeni
--- In Freeflight@yahoogroups.com, "Jan" <rainforestrowdy@...> wrote:
>
> An ounce of prevention...is worth a pound of cure. In this case,a
> double door, and you Chris, being the one to come and go through
it.
> Not...'the last feeder'. Sorry...Sorry...Sorry. I just can't tell
it
> any other way, than ...like it is. My opinion. Not a popular one
on
> this list, I know. Jan
>
>
>
>
> --- In Freeflight@yahoogroups.com, Chris Biro <chrisbiro@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Trish,
> >
> > > I am so sorry for your terrible loss. I too hope you have NO
> losses
> > > in 2007
> > > or ever again. I have heard from many about the clever and
> > > beautiful Suns
> > > and I know the joy they brought to you and many others.
However,
> I
> > > don't see
> > > how this horrible event relates to your statement below. Fully
> > > flighted
> > > outdoor birds who escape due to a lack of a double door entry
> (you
> > > mentioned
> > > Gleam had escaped this way before) and using tethers or
training
> older
> > > birds? I don't see the connection. Please help me. I know you
> are
> > > distressed
> > > but I just want to follow your thinking.
> >
> > The connection is simply that these birds escaped because the
> person
> > who was last in the aviary did not pay close attention to these
> birds
> > as they left the aviary. All it takes to enter and leave the
> aviary
> > is to just keep an eye on these sun conures as you close the
door.
> It
> > is an attention to detail issue. The same is true for using a
> tether
> > or for training adult birds to fly. WIth the tether all it takes
is
> a
> > moment of not paying attention and there is a bird loose with a
> > tether dangling from it. And with training adult birds to fly,
> > because the process is so much more slow than it is with training
> a
> > fledgling, there are lots more opportunities to miss some little
> > detail that turns out to result in a critical error. I do not
> trust
> > people to be able to pay close attention to so many details,
> > especially as new trainers. I try very hard to pay attention to
> > details; the army was really big on this especially when I was a
> > drill sergeant. But I still miss things occasionally and
sometimes
> > even when I am actually watching for them.
> >
> > I don't like tethers because I have personally observed
> experienced
> > bird people put a tether on a bird and then leave it untended as
> it
> > sat on a perch with the tether dangling. I have also had birds
> slip
> > right out of my hand as I tried to hold their feet so I know
this
> > kind of thing can happen to someone with a tether also. Once the
> bird
> > lands in a tree with a tether on, it could be impossible to get
> the
> > bird back down again if it lands in the wrong tree - and I have
> seen
> > trees like that.
> >
> > If training adult birds were the only option available, I might
> learn
> > to accept it as an acceptable risk, but it is not. And since the
> > difference in ease and safety of training a fledgling is so
> > dramatically different, I cannot justify condoning the training
of
> > adults for outdoor flight as a regular option. It is not my task
> on
> > this list to encourage the most risky approaches. It is my task
to
> > encourage the best methods that I am familiar with. Methods that
> rely
> > on the new trainer to be highly alert to a large assortment of
> > details that any one of could turn deadly are not to my liking,
> > especially when I know there is a less risky approach to having
a
> > flighted bird out doors. I am not saying that flight training an
> > adult bird to fly out doors is not possible, only that I think it
> is
> > highly unwise in leu of other available better options.
> >
> > Chris Biro
> > chrisbiro@
> > (206) 618-2610
> >
>